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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luke, true sadly some of the Dragon's seem to enjoy belittling people.

It's entertainment but sadly many people will end up believing that business is really like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luke, true sadly some of the Dragon&#8217;s seem to enjoy belittling people.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s entertainment but sadly many people will end up believing that business is really like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Mick</title>
		<link>http://www.businessopportunitiesandideas.co.uk/442/dragons-den-series-5-episode-1#comment-5457</link>
		<dc:creator>Mick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 09:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my opinion it's a light entertainment TV show, not a documentry. The producers will edit the show to make it look however they want it to look.

If ever you go and see a magic show they don't realy cut the woman in half, it just looks like it.

Read Chart Throb by Ben Elton, obviously it's not a book on business but it may give an insight into how a TV show can be made to look however they want it to.

Mick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion it&#8217;s a light entertainment TV show, not a documentry. The producers will edit the show to make it look however they want it to look.</p>
<p>If ever you go and see a magic show they don&#8217;t realy cut the woman in half, it just looks like it.</p>
<p>Read Chart Throb by Ben Elton, obviously it&#8217;s not a book on business but it may give an insight into how a TV show can be made to look however they want it to.</p>
<p>Mick</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
		<link>http://www.businessopportunitiesandideas.co.uk/442/dragons-den-series-5-episode-1#comment-5423</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 23:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The funny thing is they tried that show here in Australia and it lasted a week.  You have to get it on cable over here to watch it.  The Australian version is still going on cable I think.  What I didn't like about it was that I felt some of the entrepreneurs have this attitude about business that's completely wrong.  They were all very aggressive and at times their criticism bordered on personal insult instead of actually about the product being pitched.  Too many people are influenced by Donald Trump!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The funny thing is they tried that show here in Australia and it lasted a week.  You have to get it on cable over here to watch it.  The Australian version is still going on cable I think.  What I didn&#8217;t like about it was that I felt some of the entrepreneurs have this attitude about business that&#8217;s completely wrong.  They were all very aggressive and at times their criticism bordered on personal insult instead of actually about the product being pitched.  Too many people are influenced by Donald Trump!</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.businessopportunitiesandideas.co.uk/442/dragons-den-series-5-episode-1#comment-5410</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tariq,

While I don't particularly hold the Dragon's or the BBC in high regard there might actually be a reasonable explanation for the editing (perhaps their legal department felt it in appropriate/illegal to air the comment).

I can't say I was impressed with what we did see of your pitch, you seemed not to know the cost of manufacturing your product and your brand seemed ill conceived.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tariq,</p>
<p>While I don&#8217;t particularly hold the Dragon&#8217;s or the BBC in high regard there might actually be a reasonable explanation for the editing (perhaps their legal department felt it in appropriate/illegal to air the comment).</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t say I was impressed with what we did see of your pitch, you seemed not to know the cost of manufacturing your product and your brand seemed ill conceived.</p>
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		<title>By: Tariq</title>
		<link>http://www.businessopportunitiesandideas.co.uk/442/dragons-den-series-5-episode-1#comment-5403</link>
		<dc:creator>Tariq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear all, 

Having filmed for the series in the summer in a disused filmset not far from James Bond, there is more than meets the eye.  

In fact we were shown on Monday 19th November Episode 5, Series 5 towards the end and were trashed for about 90 seconds.

With regards to the comment about "cheap reality TV", I think that actually an understatement, and our 1 hour pitch which was truncated to 90 seconds will explain a great deal. 

We were the ones with the BamZ Interactive Insoles about 15 minutes from the end. 

Why would I agree with the cheap reality TV tag? Well there are number of reasons,

The fact that there were three of us, all with extensive experience in our own diciplines.  A European Patent Attorney, A market researcher and a designer. 

Great! I hear you shout, a decent business program with specialists in their field. WRONG - we were never asked about any research done, or any patents or trademarks held. I fact one of the Dragons actually said "you're an attorney, I'm not going to speak to you"  

They didn't probe any of the positives to look at the upside of the business in the longer term - why would you want to do that in a business program. 

Most shockingly form the 90 seconds shown last week. They even invented comments at the end to make the dragons look reasonable, and not exposing their true characters.  

In the last 5 seconds where Duncan said "I don't like the product, and I don't care for you". (this never actually happened and was never said, and is complete BBC fiction).  

It was in fact 'I don't like your product, I don't like you Tariq and I hate you Noel'.  What what you have seen is not even edited, this was seriously re-engineered afterwards.  But I suppose that is a serious business program descending into "cheap reality TV"...

What would I know, I was only there for an hour!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear all, </p>
<p>Having filmed for the series in the summer in a disused filmset not far from James Bond, there is more than meets the eye.  </p>
<p>In fact we were shown on Monday 19th November Episode 5, Series 5 towards the end and were trashed for about 90 seconds.</p>
<p>With regards to the comment about &#8220;cheap reality TV&#8221;, I think that actually an understatement, and our 1 hour pitch which was truncated to 90 seconds will explain a great deal. </p>
<p>We were the ones with the BamZ Interactive Insoles about 15 minutes from the end. </p>
<p>Why would I agree with the cheap reality TV tag? Well there are number of reasons,</p>
<p>The fact that there were three of us, all with extensive experience in our own diciplines.  A European Patent Attorney, A market researcher and a designer. </p>
<p>Great! I hear you shout, a decent business program with specialists in their field. WRONG - we were never asked about any research done, or any patents or trademarks held. I fact one of the Dragons actually said &#8220;you&#8217;re an attorney, I&#8217;m not going to speak to you&#8221;  </p>
<p>They didn&#8217;t probe any of the positives to look at the upside of the business in the longer term - why would you want to do that in a business program. </p>
<p>Most shockingly form the 90 seconds shown last week. They even invented comments at the end to make the dragons look reasonable, and not exposing their true characters.  </p>
<p>In the last 5 seconds where Duncan said &#8220;I don&#8217;t like the product, and I don&#8217;t care for you&#8221;. (this never actually happened and was never said, and is complete BBC fiction).  </p>
<p>It was in fact &#8216;I don&#8217;t like your product, I don&#8217;t like you Tariq and I hate you Noel&#8217;.  What what you have seen is not even edited, this was seriously re-engineered afterwards.  But I suppose that is a serious business program descending into &#8220;cheap reality TV&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>What would I know, I was only there for an hour!</p>
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		<title>By: Mick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 11:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even though Dragons Den probably cleverly edited Martin's Jerked Meat presentation to put the Cowleys in a bad light, the Cowleys and their "advocate" still managed to make it appalling (in personal appearance, content and financial acumen of where they are and where they wanted to go).  Planning and preparation appeared to not be in their dictionary. 

The Jerky though is fantastic - try it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even though Dragons Den probably cleverly edited Martin&#8217;s Jerked Meat presentation to put the Cowleys in a bad light, the Cowleys and their &#8220;advocate&#8221; still managed to make it appalling (in personal appearance, content and financial acumen of where they are and where they wanted to go).  Planning and preparation appeared to not be in their dictionary. </p>
<p>The Jerky though is fantastic - try it.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Connolly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Connolly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 10:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James Caan looked like he was going to buy everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James Caan looked like he was going to buy everything.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 10:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately they're not experts either, they're entrepreneurs with some spare cash and like all of us they are free to spend their cash how they see fit.

They do sometimes (more and more these days it seems) let their ego's get in the way and seem to be more focused on getting more air time for themselves than asking intelligent questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately they&#8217;re not experts either, they&#8217;re entrepreneurs with some spare cash and like all of us they are free to spend their cash how they see fit.</p>
<p>They do sometimes (more and more these days it seems) let their ego&#8217;s get in the way and seem to be more focused on getting more air time for themselves than asking intelligent questions.</p>
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		<title>By: Interested</title>
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		<dc:creator>Interested</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 10:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should have said above that the other reason I was so incensed was that these so called "experts" clearly let the other contestants speak about their product or service but clearly singled out the Cowleys for ridicule *without even mentioning, or allowing them to mention* what they wera actually about.

Even with this ridicule of them, apparently on the basis of their dress sense alone, when their advocate came to their assistance, *with suit* they ridiculed him as well constantly interrupting. Clearly no consistency there then! How can one get over one's financials if one is not even allowed to complete a sentance?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should have said above that the other reason I was so incensed was that these so called &#8220;experts&#8221; clearly let the other contestants speak about their product or service but clearly singled out the Cowleys for ridicule *without even mentioning, or allowing them to mention* what they wera actually about.</p>
<p>Even with this ridicule of them, apparently on the basis of their dress sense alone, when their advocate came to their assistance, *with suit* they ridiculed him as well constantly interrupting. Clearly no consistency there then! How can one get over one&#8217;s financials if one is not even allowed to complete a sentance?</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 10:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you've summed up the problem with the show, it's not supposed to be a game show, it's a pitch for investment and the Dragon's are supposed to be acting as Business Angel investors. They are NOT mentors.

Unfortunately it comes across as a game show and the producers seem to focus more and more on taking it that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;ve summed up the problem with the show, it&#8217;s not supposed to be a game show, it&#8217;s a pitch for investment and the Dragon&#8217;s are supposed to be acting as Business Angel investors. They are NOT mentors.</p>
<p>Unfortunately it comes across as a game show and the producers seem to focus more and more on taking it that way.</p>
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